How does clannad really end




















Anime Series Discussion. Title Discussion. Recent Watched Ignored Search Forum. Fffffffffffff I just typed this into the other thread. Do you also remember how they talked about the orbs of glowing light being a representation of happiness and can grant wishes? Well the ending basically brings together those two concepts.

The other universe has the robot and the girl, and the robot is Tomoya and the girl is Ushio. They are on the other side where all the orbs of happiness go from the world that the people live in. At the end after Ushio dies and Tomoya collapses into the snow, they show the beginning of the series again with Nagisa under the tree and Tomoya is saying to himself that he wishes he'd never met her because he regrets all of the things they have gone through and she would still be alive.

While he's fighting with that, Nagisa starts to leave and walk up the hill and Tomoya runs to her and hugs her and she responds with something like "what took you so long". He decides he should have never thought that and loves the time he spent with her because he loved her so much.

At that moment the orbs of happiness essentially grant his wish and put him back into his normal universe with the alternate ending. I'm glad I could help! I loved Clannad and Clannad: Afterstory, so I like helping people understand it better if they don't get it!

I've just finished watching just a couple of minutes ago and I was googling about more info about the ending and so I got directed here. I'm also planning to play the VN, many people said that there is much explenation given there too. Anyway thanks again, this really was the best anime I've ever seen in my life! Bullshit forced happy ending is what happened. AssumingControl said: Bullshit forced happy ending is what happened.

Signature removed. In the visual novel, there are a number of "orbs of light" which are also in the anime but not focused on as much. Yukine describes them to Tomoya at the end of her route, and I believe also at some point in the anime.

So why isn't Okazaki? Some might say he could sound like a child, but we've heard his voice as a child before and he sounds nothing like that. During the episode when Kotomi and Okazaki first become friends. Doesn't the robots voice sound an awful lot like Shima?

The kid that made a promise to Misae when they were high school and promised to stay with her. I don't doubt that the girl is Ushio but it'd make the most sense.

You never knew much about Shima and his back story is very interesting. The robot never replies when the girl calls him dad. But then again the robot claimed to have heard of the Dango song. But the Dango family song was very famous in Japan but it was never specified during what time period and we can assume it was during the time Nagisa and Okazaki were kids since Okazaki kept referring to the Dango song as childish,and old.

If that were true then it would fit the time period that Misae and Shima went to high school, since Misae isn't very old. Shima would make sense since he had apparently died already, just like Ushio, and claimed to have the power to grant any wish. From a pouch with a glowing light inside. Maybe the source is a glowing orb.

He apparently was suffering from an illness and was being hospitalized, could it have been the same condition Nagisa and Ushio faced? Problem is he's completely foreign. We aren't even completely sure if he is Shima. Regarding the end of Clannad After Story, I just thought that Okazaki had died due to him collapsing in the snow and was reliving his life right before he died and imagined the best case scenario, seeing how he did that during a card game with fuuko and ushio or that when he passed away that him and his family were reunited in the afterlife, only problem would be the 22 episode that theory is contradicted with ushio laying in the grass at the end of it, but then in the last three episodes it focuses on their pasts maybe implying that their all dead.

Ushio may have survived seeing how she was at the same place Nagisa's dad took her when she was facing certain death due to similar circumstances the hospital highly doubt it though But then I remembered something major, in a dream I pretty sure Kyou told him that he had Schizophrenia, and that's a bid deal.

Schizophrenia is a brain disorder where the mind has a hard time separating reality from fantasy. Could the other world just be a figure of his imagination, a result from Schizophrenia? It was stated in his own dream, maybe a clue or hint to what's really going on.

While they were children Kotomi and Okazaki always played with each other. Maybe she told him about her parents research. If that's true he could have been developing this story for a long time in his mind from the time since he was a child.

The ending of Nagisa's version was much different to Okazaki. The orbs of light I thought were symbolic of the connection the story had with reality that ultimately Okazaki and ushio would be separated only to be reunited in a better place.

Similar to the fortune telling in a way. The other worlds kinda felt a bit far fetched seeing how this anime didn't seem to focus its plot lines in that kinda stuff but lean towards problems based off society issues and not other worldly issues amazing vocabulary I know The other worlds I felt were focused to Kotomi but I'm still unsure about that, but I agree on the theory that it seemed that Nagisa and Ushio can't be in the same world.

So what happend in the ending was tomoya was holding ushio in his arms and Said "ushio? Some one please please help her! Nagisa please help ushio nagisa? The reason why that happend is because of the old town legend when someone achieved true happiness a ball of light appears and if you catch it you can have any wish, so when tomoya said goodbye to his dad in the second season him and his dad achieved true happiness and the ball of light landed on tomoya so that is practically catching it so the ball of light took him to the other world and that's how tomoya and nagisa both know the story of the world that has ended!

I started watching from episode 5 so may be I am over interpreting First, his father shows hom that his daughter and him may ultimately end up misunderstanding each other - that his fathers pride is how he ended up without family. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Stack Overflow for Teams — Collaborate and share knowledge with a private group.

Create a free Team What is Teams? Learn more. Ask Question. Asked 8 years, 11 months ago. Active 9 months ago. Viewed k times. Improve this question. Logan M Grace Grace 1 1 gold badge 6 6 silver badges 12 12 bronze badges. I think this is one of those series that is supposed to be ambiguous, abstract.

I think the answer actually can change based on the emotional maturity of the viewer over time. As this is an "I think" it will be left as a comment Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. Improve this answer.

Community Bot 1. Logan M Logan M Wow, amazingly well written explanation. Awesome job. I watched the anime but, as you said at the end, I couldn't have understood all of this merely by watching the anime. The anime did a great job, but the VN has a few hundreds of hours of content and fitting that into 49 episodes is just impossible. In fact, it's rather remarkable how much of the story they did manage to cover given the size of the game. There is still an even more basic baseline missing that feels a bit mutually exclusive.

The illusionary world is trying to prevent the deaths of nagisa and ushio, but why? Also how does Ushio know they will die and know to save them? Is the missing piece here that they died once, and time reset after that, to let it play through again just to save them? The anime only went through 1 time, so it seemed like they were trying to be saved before it was ever known or seen what would happen to them. At the end of the show Tomoya goes through very rough times and just when he's about to break he is given a choice: "Would you like to go back and redo everything from the moment you met Nagisa and not go through all that tough things as well as all of the happy moments or are you glad you got to live the life you were given despite everything?

There are basically two ways of dealing with Clannad: A Temporal loops with parallel universes -which sees the side characters in a more significant light- B Temporal loops -which strictly focus on Nagisa and Tomoya- For reasons that will be elaborated bellow, the VN can be interpreted according to A and the anime according to B. Why is there a need for time loops or alternative universes?

The same kind Key have always done and will likely continue to do so in the future. So a lot of different routes are created, each for every girl. They may or may not start at the same place but will certainly have a different, separated ending. This makes impossible for a linear script to be written. The solution is either to assume each story as a separated one or make the protagonist suffer from some serious amnesia.

Why not give it the Amagami SS treatment then? This creates a huge problem for continuity because you have events that happen at the same time and place but with different characters, in a different setting. What are the light orbs? Orbs are interdimensional, translucent entities that materialize from moments of true happiness.

In this situation, a visible yet intangible projection of feelings something immaterial by definition. Said orb is capable of fulfilling a dream -which may or may not be also a miracle- and for it to do so, its bearer need only to wish it. This means Nagisa and Ushio came back to life because…?

Basically because Tomoya made a wish with light orbs. A larger amount of orbs would be necessary, 13 to be exact. This is where things get a bit confusing. Do note that the IW was not created for Ushio, it already existed for thousands of years. Initially with no idea why or how, she would eventually meet with a special light and make a robotic body for it Tomoya.

However, she builds a robot. Keep reading. Parallel universes with Time Loops? To do so, he is sent back to the point where he first met Nagisa and set the wheel of fate spinning: the bottom of the hill. This is where the significance of the supportive characters is put into discussion. These universes were created the moment original-Tomoya made his wish.

With the purest, finest feelings as possible. This way, every route becomes meaningful, with honest interactions and alternative-Tomoyas living happily ever after. This time, all the romantic relationships with the obvious exception of Nagisa are suppressed, and hence the orbs which would come from them also are.

All characters are merged into a single storyline and are introduced at different points of plot development, with Tomoya collecting orbs continuously as he meets and helps them.

This will be better explained further bellow. Town, Nagisa, Ushio and the Illusionary World? Just like other Key works Air, Rewrite, Planetarian you need to understand that the town where Clannad takes place is a living organism.



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